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	<title>Comments on: Hawaii Supreme Court takes the logical next step</title>
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		<title>by: Chris</title>
		<link>http://www.geekforgod.com/2005/12/01/hawaii-supreme-court-takes-the-logical-next-step/#comment-16530</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2008 20:24:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>You are absolutely right.  That is manslaughter, plain and simple.  Awful, but true.  How anyone could think the abdominal wall and a few days makes a difference to that question is beyond me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are absolutely right.  That is manslaughter, plain and simple.  Awful, but true.  How anyone could think the abdominal wall and a few days makes a difference to that question is beyond me.
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		<title>by: Robin Munn</title>
		<link>http://www.geekforgod.com/2005/12/01/hawaii-supreme-court-takes-the-logical-next-step/#comment-241</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Oct 2006 10:18:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>"Thou (not thy, BTW) shalt keep thy religion to thyself" sounds almost like a religious commandment, doesn't it? I'm sure you meant it that way.

Thing is, that's not one of the commandments found in the religion called Christianity, which is the one I follow. It *is* one of the commands in the religion called postmodernity, which you appear to follow. So... why should *I* follow a command from *your* religion? And why are you telling me to do so? Doesn't that violate the principle of "Thou shalt keep thy religion to thyself"?

Turning to the question of forcing one's views on abortion on people: the Roe v. Wade decision did just that. Prior to Roe v. Wade, the legality of abortion was left up to the states. Some had laws banning all abortions, while some had laws permitting abortions (usually only under certain circumstances, such as during the first trimester or to save the life of the mother). Rather few, I believe, allowed abortions under any circumstances.

If Roe v. Wade were overturned tomorrow, abortion advocates would have us believe that we'd go back to the &lt;i&gt;status quo ante&lt;/i&gt;, where abortions were forbidden throughout the U.S. But that fails to take into account the nature of the political landscape today. If Roe v. Wade were overturned, some states (such as California) would immediately pass laws allowing abortion under the same circumstances as before. Other states would pass laws allowing abortion under restricted circumstances, and some would pass laws forbidding all abortions. The result would be that the people of each state would get the chance to decide, in the normal democratic process, what laws they wanted to govern them. Instead of having just nine people impose the law on everyone.

So, the ultimate question is: do you really believe in democracy? Or, when you think democracy will produce the "wrong" answer, are you prepared to hand the decision over to an oligarchy of nine?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Thou (not thy, BTW) shalt keep thy religion to thyself&#8221; sounds almost like a religious commandment, doesn&#8217;t it? I&#8217;m sure you meant it that way.</p>
<p>Thing is, that&#8217;s not one of the commandments found in the religion called Christianity, which is the one I follow. It *is* one of the commands in the religion called postmodernity, which you appear to follow. So&#8230; why should *I* follow a command from *your* religion? And why are you telling me to do so? Doesn&#8217;t that violate the principle of &#8220;Thou shalt keep thy religion to thyself&#8221;?</p>
<p>Turning to the question of forcing one&#8217;s views on abortion on people: the Roe v. Wade decision did just that. Prior to Roe v. Wade, the legality of abortion was left up to the states. Some had laws banning all abortions, while some had laws permitting abortions (usually only under certain circumstances, such as during the first trimester or to save the life of the mother). Rather few, I believe, allowed abortions under any circumstances.</p>
<p>If Roe v. Wade were overturned tomorrow, abortion advocates would have us believe that we&#8217;d go back to the <i>status quo ante</i>, where abortions were forbidden throughout the U.S. But that fails to take into account the nature of the political landscape today. If Roe v. Wade were overturned, some states (such as California) would immediately pass laws allowing abortion under the same circumstances as before. Other states would pass laws allowing abortion under restricted circumstances, and some would pass laws forbidding all abortions. The result would be that the people of each state would get the chance to decide, in the normal democratic process, what laws they wanted to govern them. Instead of having just nine people impose the law on everyone.</p>
<p>So, the ultimate question is: do you really believe in democracy? Or, when you think democracy will produce the &#8220;wrong&#8221; answer, are you prepared to hand the decision over to an oligarchy of nine?
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		<title>by: IsThatSo</title>
		<link>http://www.geekforgod.com/2005/12/01/hawaii-supreme-court-takes-the-logical-next-step/#comment-240</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Oct 2006 06:09:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Pardon me before /I/ throw up -- what business is it of yours what that woman does with her baby? Is it your baby? No. So mind your own business. Thy shalt keep thy religion to thyself. Just because /you/ think abortion is "evil" doesn't mean that you should force it on the rest of us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pardon me before /I/ throw up &#8212; what business is it of yours what that woman does with her baby? Is it your baby? No. So mind your own business. Thy shalt keep thy religion to thyself. Just because /you/ think abortion is &#8220;evil&#8221; doesn&#8217;t mean that you should force it on the rest of us.
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		<title>by: Glen Dean</title>
		<link>http://www.geekforgod.com/2005/12/01/hawaii-supreme-court-takes-the-logical-next-step/#comment-9</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jan 2006 23:01:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>That is awful and truly sad.</description>
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