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		<title>By: Ellie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ellie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Feb 2011 05:38:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, I love everything about this post, its clear cut and well thought through. I agree with it all, now I just have to find a guy that does too :P</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, I love everything about this post, its clear cut and well thought through. I agree with it all, now I just have to find a guy that does too :P</p>
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		<title>By: desiree may at Christian dating</title>
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		<dc:creator>desiree may at Christian dating</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 07:11:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For me of course it does dating is right for christian not only christian it is where we can meet our partner that God would give. and maybe it will make our faith stronger for the name of God. thanks for the post and much love and thanks again.


&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.christiandarlings.com/i/?a=43&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;desireemay&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For me of course it does dating is right for christian not only christian it is where we can meet our partner that God would give. and maybe it will make our faith stronger for the name of God. thanks for the post and much love and thanks again.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.christiandarlings.com/i/?a=43" rel="nofollow">desireemay</a></p>
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		<title>By: Robin Munn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robin Munn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Feb 2007 03:58:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That same married friend (I&#039;ll call her Mary, and I&#039;ll call her husband Joe), said later on in that conversation, &quot;When I was dating Joe, that was one level of commitment. We were dating each other exclusively, but we also knew that a lot of dating relationships don&#039;t end up in marriage, so there was a good chance that I&#039;d end up married to someone else, not Joe. So we kept in mind, what would I regret having done with Joe if I ended up married to someone else? Now, once we were engaged, that was a different level of relationship and intimacy. We drew a different line. Still well short of sex, but further along than before.&quot;

Joe then chimed in, &quot;I thought about how I&#039;d feel if Mary had dated someone else before she&#039;d met me. Or what if she&#039;d been engaged before she met me? Would I have felt robbed of something special if she&#039;d had sex with her previous fiance? Absolutely. Would I have felt robbed if she&#039;d kissed her previous fiance? No; I would have considered that to be a perfectly appropriate level of intimacy for that relationship.&quot;

After thinking it over, I tend to agree with them. A kiss expresses a good deal of commitment -- but getting engaged actually expresses quite a bit &lt;i&gt;more&lt;/i&gt; than that same level of commitment. So not kissing your fiancee, I think, would actually be denying her something you should be giving her: one particular expression of your commitment.

Now, having said that -- kissing is a mighty powerful thing. In a very real way, it&#039;s preparation for sex, and it does a great job of creating desire. So you should be aware of its power and treat it with respect: don&#039;t get into long necking sessions, for example. Bad idea. Find a different line, but do draw the line, and get friends to check up on you.

The physical-intimacy line I&#039;ve decided to draw for dating is a pretty simple rule-of-thumb: nothing I wouldn&#039;t do with my sister. That means no kissing, for example. Maybe one exception to the rule: holding hands. I wouldn&#039;t do the fingers-entwined kind of hand-holding with my sister, but I wouldn&#039;t consider that inappropriate for a dating relationship.

For engagement, another fairly simple rule of thumb: nothing we&#039;d be embarrassed doing in public. Kissing yes, but long, drawn-out kissing that turns into a necking section, no. And so on. Plus another rule, to make sure that temptation doesn&#039;t run away with us. Touching each other may &lt;i&gt;only&lt;/i&gt; be done in public. When we&#039;re alone together, &lt;i&gt;NO&lt;/i&gt; touching. And get friends to check up on us and ask us, regularly, if we&#039;ve broken any of those rules.

Now, that&#039;s my line. Where &lt;i&gt;you&lt;/i&gt; draw the line is between you and God. And, if you&#039;re currently dating or engaged (I&#039;m neither), your girlfriend or fiancee, of course. But I&#039;d advise you to consider just how much of a distance there is between &quot;no kissing&quot; and &quot;everything, including sex, is perfectly O.K.&quot;, and just how fast you&#039;d be bridging that gap if you wait until the wedding day for the first kiss. It seems to me that engagement, rather than the wedding day, is the right time to &lt;i&gt;start&lt;/i&gt; allowing physical intimacy to move forward. Keep in mind that not all engagements are successful, and don&#039;t defraud each other of anything that really &lt;i&gt;should&lt;/i&gt; be saved for the wedding night. But withholding all physical intimacy during the engagement is, I think, going too far.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That same married friend (I&#8217;ll call her Mary, and I&#8217;ll call her husband Joe), said later on in that conversation, &#8220;When I was dating Joe, that was one level of commitment. We were dating each other exclusively, but we also knew that a lot of dating relationships don&#8217;t end up in marriage, so there was a good chance that I&#8217;d end up married to someone else, not Joe. So we kept in mind, what would I regret having done with Joe if I ended up married to someone else? Now, once we were engaged, that was a different level of relationship and intimacy. We drew a different line. Still well short of sex, but further along than before.&#8221;</p>
<p>Joe then chimed in, &#8220;I thought about how I&#8217;d feel if Mary had dated someone else before she&#8217;d met me. Or what if she&#8217;d been engaged before she met me? Would I have felt robbed of something special if she&#8217;d had sex with her previous fiance? Absolutely. Would I have felt robbed if she&#8217;d kissed her previous fiance? No; I would have considered that to be a perfectly appropriate level of intimacy for that relationship.&#8221;</p>
<p>After thinking it over, I tend to agree with them. A kiss expresses a good deal of commitment &#8212; but getting engaged actually expresses quite a bit <i>more</i> than that same level of commitment. So not kissing your fiancee, I think, would actually be denying her something you should be giving her: one particular expression of your commitment.</p>
<p>Now, having said that &#8212; kissing is a mighty powerful thing. In a very real way, it&#8217;s preparation for sex, and it does a great job of creating desire. So you should be aware of its power and treat it with respect: don&#8217;t get into long necking sessions, for example. Bad idea. Find a different line, but do draw the line, and get friends to check up on you.</p>
<p>The physical-intimacy line I&#8217;ve decided to draw for dating is a pretty simple rule-of-thumb: nothing I wouldn&#8217;t do with my sister. That means no kissing, for example. Maybe one exception to the rule: holding hands. I wouldn&#8217;t do the fingers-entwined kind of hand-holding with my sister, but I wouldn&#8217;t consider that inappropriate for a dating relationship.</p>
<p>For engagement, another fairly simple rule of thumb: nothing we&#8217;d be embarrassed doing in public. Kissing yes, but long, drawn-out kissing that turns into a necking section, no. And so on. Plus another rule, to make sure that temptation doesn&#8217;t run away with us. Touching each other may <i>only</i> be done in public. When we&#8217;re alone together, <i>NO</i> touching. And get friends to check up on us and ask us, regularly, if we&#8217;ve broken any of those rules.</p>
<p>Now, that&#8217;s my line. Where <i>you</i> draw the line is between you and God. And, if you&#8217;re currently dating or engaged (I&#8217;m neither), your girlfriend or fiancee, of course. But I&#8217;d advise you to consider just how much of a distance there is between &#8220;no kissing&#8221; and &#8220;everything, including sex, is perfectly O.K.&#8221;, and just how fast you&#8217;d be bridging that gap if you wait until the wedding day for the first kiss. It seems to me that engagement, rather than the wedding day, is the right time to <i>start</i> allowing physical intimacy to move forward. Keep in mind that not all engagements are successful, and don&#8217;t defraud each other of anything that really <i>should</i> be saved for the wedding night. But withholding all physical intimacy during the engagement is, I think, going too far.</p>
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		<title>By: Jay S.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jay S.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Feb 2007 01:24:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good thoughts! Tough to determine which is more in keeping with the mind of Christ. Waiting until kissing &quot;means something&quot;, holding off &#039;til engaged, or the big one - the wedding day! I&#039;m holding out for the wedding day, but the engagement day seems pretty tempting, too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good thoughts! Tough to determine which is more in keeping with the mind of Christ. Waiting until kissing &#8220;means something&#8221;, holding off &#8217;til engaged, or the big one &#8211; the wedding day! I&#8217;m holding out for the wedding day, but the engagement day seems pretty tempting, too.</p>
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		<title>By: lean</title>
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		<dc:creator>lean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jan 2007 06:05:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the thoughts. 
Good to be reminded of the need to pray, the need to set boundaries, the need to find friends to whom we can be accountable to.. Esp when my fiance and i struggling are against being too intimate physically . Thanks again</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the thoughts.<br />
Good to be reminded of the need to pray, the need to set boundaries, the need to find friends to whom we can be accountable to.. Esp when my fiance and i struggling are against being too intimate physically . Thanks again</p>
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		<title>By: janine</title>
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		<dc:creator>janine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Nov 2005 07:29:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I strongly believe that dating is for mature people only; I also believe that dating is given the wrong connotation.  I agree that there are many other ways to get to know people of the opposite sex, but I consider dating as the simplest way of doing so.  Dating is like wading through the many prospects, and by doing this you also get to assess and to &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.cupidsreviews.com/dating-blog/personals/marriage-how-long-to-wait.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;wait before you decide to marry&lt;/a&gt; whoever it is you think is your &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.enotalone.com/article/1043.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;perfect partner&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I strongly believe that dating is for mature people only; I also believe that dating is given the wrong connotation.  I agree that there are many other ways to get to know people of the opposite sex, but I consider dating as the simplest way of doing so.  Dating is like wading through the many prospects, and by doing this you also get to assess and to <a href="http://www.cupidsreviews.com/dating-blog/personals/marriage-how-long-to-wait.html" rel="nofollow">wait before you decide to marry</a> whoever it is you think is your <a href="http://www.enotalone.com/article/1043.html" rel="nofollow">perfect partner</a>.</p>
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